Showing posts with label rick warren. Show all posts
Showing posts with label rick warren. Show all posts

Thursday, February 11, 2010

Rick Warren and Church memebership

I'm not a fan of church membership. It just seems to me that it is another way for local churches to say that person belongs to them. Other than baptism, which I see for the universal Church, I don't see any strong biblical evidence. I was with a bit of a surprised that Out of Ur has reported Rick Warren starting "Radical Membership"::

“Membership is a word that has been perverted and abused,” said Warren. “It’s not putting your name on a roll. It’s not about knowing the insider lingo. That’s not what membership is all about.”
Using Scripture to show the importance of commitment to a local congregation, Warren said membership was about being “a member in the Body of Christ.” And therefore membership is “organic not organizational.”

Warren shot down the notion that membership isn’t important as long as people attend the church. “The difference between an attender and a member is the difference between living together and getting married. A lot of people want to date the church, but they don’t want to get married. That is spiritual adultery.”
Radical membership is an act of commitment, not conformity. It’s about belonging to God’s family and being a contributor and not just a consumer. “if you’re going to build a healthy, mature church you are going to have to understand the meaning of radical membership.”

I think everything that he has said belongs to the aspect of baptism and belonging to the 'Body of Christ.'
Everytime I've seen membership in churches. It almost goes hand in hand with a building program to sure up finances. There is always some sort of 'Accountability' aspect, but I only see it in one direction. The member is accountable to the church or in a more hidden way the 'leadership'. Not reciprocal, he Church has no accountability, no avenue for asking open questions.

Churches will always 'Radical member', without the bit of paper. They are the ones serving the coffee, praying for others, giving anonymously. It is a much more freer approach.

Saturday, August 22, 2009

God is Back

There are now more Christians in China than there are members of the Communist party and while Pentecostalism has been growing like crazy in Latin America, it's South Korea where you'll find five of the world's ten biggest mega-churches. In 'God is Back', John Micklethwait and Adrian Wooldridge track the revival of religion in a world where previously, intellectuals assumed that modernism would kill religion.
What I found interesting was that some of the ideas were the same as put forward by Alan Hirsch and his mates. That in persecution the Christian church is more likely to experience growth.
I also thought it as interesting the word "pastorpreneur", how these minister are changing. An example was Ps Rick Warren. He is more 'Green', looking more at issues regarding social justice. And not inclined to be so public with social moralizing.
Worth a listen, check it out here.