Showing posts with label Shelby Spong. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Shelby Spong. Show all posts

Wednesday, May 19, 2010

Podcasts, Tickle, Spong and Mclaren

I just got back into listening to podcasts again. We are very much broadband limited so downloading is a bit of a bonus...

The first podcast that I've saved up, is from "The Nick and Josh podcast" interviewed was Phillyis Tickle, "Jack" Shelby Spong and Brian Mclaren.

There were a few interesting insights especially Spongs words and I paraphrase. "Religion is the seeking of truth", somthing in that ran true for me.

Its worth a listen. What surprised me was how McLaren was so quite, while Spong and Tickle where definitely the most engaging (I'm not sure this is a good thing...).

Wednesday, January 6, 2010

The Number 42, the meaning for everything



I can remember reading the "hitchhikers guide to the galaxy", by Douglas Adams and been amazed at how a computer could after 7.5 million of year compute the "The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything" with the answer "42".
I thought that this was hilariously funny. Lttle did I realise latter that Douglas was an atheist. So much so, that Richard Dawkins dedicated his book "The God Delusion" to Adams, using his quote::
"Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?"

It seems to me that maybe Adams was having a bit of a go at people who believed with his number "42". I still think it is very funny.

A question which has rattled me this year has been. Is it possible for non-believers, athiest and agnostics to take small steps back into community of faith? Let me explain.
I started thinking about this with the reading of Chaim Potok's, "The Chosen". A question is asked by the main character Reuven Malter who is studying to become an Orthodox Rabbi to his father who is a Jewish academic on modern methods of studying the Talmud. I cannot remember the exact question but it is to do with an acquaintance Abraham Gordon, a well-known author who has been excommunicated by the very Orthodox for his books which question the very foundations of traditional Judaism. Abraham Gordon would be the Christian equivalent to Shelby Spong or Paul Tillich.
Reuven's father answers the question regarding Abraham Gorden saying that, and I paraphrase. Abraham Gordon's writing is important because it helps those who cannot believe, believe. (or it may have been: those who believe stay within their community)
I have many sincere atheist and agnostic friends, who have tried to believe. It is, and I believe them, something which is not just turned on like a tap.